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citrus_java ([personal profile] citrus_java) wrote2014-10-01 07:42 am
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Does this fic exist?

We write so much dub-con - is there any fic out there at all about anybody dealing with any form of domestic abuse - not as part of a story about a better relationship coming along? As a personal thing ?

[identity profile] citrusjava.livejournal.com 2014-10-03 07:12 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the rec!
Yeah, I've read a bunch of those connected as well (depends on your deifinition of 'domestic abuse', perhaps...) -
for me, they're - I get the connection. For me, BDSM is not detached from abuse (in many cases) - dealing with it, wanting it, working through it...? How do you see it?

[identity profile] nagasasu.livejournal.com 2014-10-06 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
BDSM is not detached from abuse (in many cases) - dealing with it, wanting it, working through it...?
Totally.

From what I understand, abuse can really thrive in subcultures like BDSM or queer communities? I'm not very well-read on this, but that's my understanding.

[identity profile] citrusjava.livejournal.com 2014-10-06 07:01 am (UTC)(link)
I've heard of incidents with that -
I know about myself that I sometimes need to work to figure out if there is even a line .
I don't shine at saying "no" when I know it's disappoint the other person - or I know what is expected of me. It's harder with people I care about and want to please. I've found myself talking myself into things I didn't want, telling myself it would be like BDSM, so it's fine .




But more than that - the desire to sub and the desire to be abused (some variations of it, at least) are not always a different thing at all - the safe and mutually wanted aspects are a very important difference , but the drive can be the same.