904 (spoilers, of course)
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citrus_javaGood episode! Clearly a Robbie episode – rethinking the Batcave, shout outs to past events on the show, making character moments, working out the issue of Sam's room, fan shout outs, sense of wonder, broment, Charlie, POL, and just the quality of writing.
I like that the writers are making a serious effort to add female characters we'd like to the show. And I love that mostly they aren't there as love interests, though we get enough hints to interest the fic writers (I hope). It's interesting to me to watch them trying to write for an audience of women, when you're writing a show that isn't your stereotypical show for women. Trying to figure out what we want, how to make it work, whether or not to give it to us etc. As awesome women on the show go, though, to me Dorothy was a nice try, but a miss. "Strong feminine mostly normative woman making it in the men's world without too many traits" is one way of being awesome, perhaps, but kinda done.
GoT! I must revisit the drawing the awesome Leigh Lahav made for my prompt! :-)
Charlie and the books, and fanfic, eeeeee! No wonder she appreciated them having a dungeon. Wonder if Becky ever, erm, edited anything in or out. The ever-subtle Dean wants to know where he can find them. Please read them and figure out the thing with the message Sam still think you left him, Dean. And while you're at it, have a talk about the amulet, please, now.
I LOVE that they finally mentioned Sam's room. Sam not wanting to jinks it and call it a home. Love that Sam talked about it (though he changed the subject before, with Charlie). On top of what Sam said, perhaps he felt/feels like he was not gonna be around for very long, so why decorate. And that moment in the end, that look! Oh! Better than a hug! Boys, you're there! In your untalky , bondy selves, yes! Yes! YES!
Now!
Why was the slumber party in Sam's room? I get that Dean wouldn't want the it in his privast space, but why Sam's? Cause he has the good TV? What does he watch?
It was interesting to see him sitting on a chair while the others got comfy(ish) on his bed.
Braid Sam's hair, please. It's becoming a show thing. Who do you say gets to do it first?
Dean decorating – fic time! And being bummed out that he'd just cleaned the kitchen, aww, Dean! Anyway, now that Baby's moved in, Dean really lives there too. Plus, it's safer, if they're trying to avoid being found.
And another thing.
Sam: Why did Cas leave, really?
Dean: *opens his coat in a flasher move* Pudding!
By the way – Sam's the one trying to help Cas, *Sam*. Again.
Twice this episode Dean was called stupid. Sam: "You know, Dean, the ones without pictures" – ukgh. Dislike. Can it be OOC, just Zeke being a douchbag? We all know he doesn't have to do the eye thing! Crowley called Dean brainless and Sam soulless (or the other way around?). Ouch. And if Charlie's Toto, does that mean Crowley's the coward? That much might work, the way he seems to think about himself.
I really like that the writers are finally using the Bat Cave.
I like that the writers are making a serious effort to add female characters we'd like to the show. And I love that mostly they aren't there as love interests, though we get enough hints to interest the fic writers (I hope). It's interesting to me to watch them trying to write for an audience of women, when you're writing a show that isn't your stereotypical show for women. Trying to figure out what we want, how to make it work, whether or not to give it to us etc. As awesome women on the show go, though, to me Dorothy was a nice try, but a miss. "Strong feminine mostly normative woman making it in the men's world without too many traits" is one way of being awesome, perhaps, but kinda done.
GoT! I must revisit the drawing the awesome Leigh Lahav made for my prompt! :-)
Charlie and the books, and fanfic, eeeeee! No wonder she appreciated them having a dungeon. Wonder if Becky ever, erm, edited anything in or out. The ever-subtle Dean wants to know where he can find them. Please read them and figure out the thing with the message Sam still think you left him, Dean. And while you're at it, have a talk about the amulet, please, now.
I LOVE that they finally mentioned Sam's room. Sam not wanting to jinks it and call it a home. Love that Sam talked about it (though he changed the subject before, with Charlie). On top of what Sam said, perhaps he felt/feels like he was not gonna be around for very long, so why decorate. And that moment in the end, that look! Oh! Better than a hug! Boys, you're there! In your untalky , bondy selves, yes! Yes! YES!
Now!
Why was the slumber party in Sam's room? I get that Dean wouldn't want the it in his privast space, but why Sam's? Cause he has the good TV? What does he watch?
It was interesting to see him sitting on a chair while the others got comfy(ish) on his bed.
Braid Sam's hair, please. It's becoming a show thing. Who do you say gets to do it first?
Dean decorating – fic time! And being bummed out that he'd just cleaned the kitchen, aww, Dean! Anyway, now that Baby's moved in, Dean really lives there too. Plus, it's safer, if they're trying to avoid being found.
And another thing.
Sam: Why did Cas leave, really?
Dean: *opens his coat in a flasher move* Pudding!
By the way – Sam's the one trying to help Cas, *Sam*. Again.
Twice this episode Dean was called stupid. Sam: "You know, Dean, the ones without pictures" – ukgh. Dislike. Can it be OOC, just Zeke being a douchbag? We all know he doesn't have to do the eye thing! Crowley called Dean brainless and Sam soulless (or the other way around?). Ouch. And if Charlie's Toto, does that mean Crowley's the coward? That much might work, the way he seems to think about himself.
I really like that the writers are finally using the Bat Cave.
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Date: 2013-11-04 06:00 pm (UTC)What I have a problem with is "showing" Dean as stupid and that's usually the fault of the writers. Dean's not educated. He's not booksmart. What he is is canny and street-smart and I love when the writers show that. He thinks fast in a fight ad creates clever solutions to problems while on the go. It's what makes him such a great tactician and the nominal leader during most hunts or just out in the field.
Also, it is the province of yunger brothers to tease their elders. It's tradition.
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Date: 2013-11-04 09:21 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-11-08 09:17 pm (UTC)I don't think one thing excludes the other, but Dean sees it that way
Interesting. And I agree that both can exist, and probably both Sam and Dean have boh.
Sam certainly doesn't help when he makes what he thinks are throwaway comments.
Yeah. They seem to believe they don't hurt each other when they poke fun, and that's not always true. So much of each of their identity has to do with the other, they are influenced by what the other says, to a certain degree, especially if it's somthing they're insecure or guilty or something like that, about.
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Date: 2013-11-08 09:13 pm (UTC)I'm not sure about the street smarts vs. book smarts, but I agree that of course I have more of a problem with Dean being written as stupid. Which happens way too often, sadly.