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citrus_java ([personal profile] citrus_java) wrote2013-12-01 03:35 pm

REC: podfic and fic - things I'm glad I tried

Today I'm reccing fic I would have written off based on the header - and am glad I didn't. A lot of this is "Dean/Cas recs for Dean/Sam shippers", if you will.

If On a Winter’s Night a Fangirl
What I loved about it: I adore meta fandom fic things. This one is funny and silly, just - fun. Becky, Chuck, slash, rps, inside jokes, fandom.
The reading is so much fun - the reader and a friend delighting in the fic and occasionally not being able to help laughing - it works well for me with this sort of fic, particularly since it's meta on meta on meta, it's only fitting that the readers be present in it in a more "official" way. Also, it's just fun - being read to by someone who loves what they read, and you can tell they're having fun too, sharing the jokes.
Header: Dean/Cas
Thoughts: in a way, it's a story about fandom (via Becky and other forces) switching from Wincest to Destiel. I would have maybe had a problem with that, but I was too busy laughing. Also, it made me realize another bit of how Destiel (used to be?) marginalized. They never got canon validation like that.
Wouldn't have read cause: there's Dean/Cas in there.


Absolution
Some of the things I loved about it: This fic is midseason 4, in a very good way. The characters and their relationships, the world, the vibe. A lot of it is about Sam and Dean's relationship, how they deal with the way they started to drift apart, Sam drinking demon blood in order to make amends, Dean defining himself by Sam, being ok vs. being honest with each other and everything that's going on around them. It looks at these things in a way I appreciated - I didn't feel it put anybody on a pedestal, and still it was compassionate. It's casefic, or rather - case arc fic, this could have been a third or so of season 4, and it's interesting. Castiel plays an important role in this, and is interesting in himself and what he goes through, without taking from the rest.
Why I would have ruled it out: Dean/Cas, Sam/Pamela. I really don't go for those, but the fic didn't depend on them, they weren't the center of things, and they worked.


Start Quoting Shakespeare And We're Done
What I liked about it: Librarians, brothers being cute together, banter, Dean working on cars, Dean being fed, Sam being fed chocolate, things being simple and happy after all.
Thoughts: This is just cute shmoop, not too sappy, just mostly cute rom-com. Don't usually like rom-coms, usually I find them more disturbing on a social/personal level than some of the things considered angst. This fic had only a little of that, and was cute and fun.
Why I would have ruled it out: rom-com, AU, Dean/Cas, Sam/Gab.

Apocrypha, or: How Chuck Learned to Stop Worrying and Love His Red Pen
Liked about it: Chuck, funny, interesting, good season 4/5 characterization and vibe, outsider POV on the "war headquarters at Bobby's" scenario, writing and show meta.
Wouldn't have tried it cause: Dean/Cas, outsider pov.

In short, I'm running out of good Sam/Dean (and Sam/Cas!) non-triggery podfic.

[identity profile] applegeuse.livejournal.com 2013-12-02 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
Heh, it seems like LJ is being such a twerp to everyone today! They must be having some site-wide problem.

The Dean/Cas AU in question is this one, and I really appreciated the way the author wrote about Dean and his bisexuality and his struggles to come out. That's totally what made it appealing! (Come to think of it, there was another Dean/Cas fic that dealt with Dean being bisexual that I appreciated; think it was a short podfic, can't remember.)

Re: the shows I've watched to listen to podfic. Specifically, a TV show I watched (and ended up adoring in all its 90s-delightfulness) is Due South. I was surprised by how much I ended up liking it! :> Other things I've enjoyed less. I tried to watch Merlin but had to quit after an episode or two; I hated The Social Network because it's full of Mean People Doing Mean Things; the Star Trek movie didn't do a lot for me. But Due South was 10000% delightful.

Hm, there should be podfic about making podfic and about the podfic community/experience.

LOL there totally should. For example, I drool at the prospect of a J2 AU wherein they are both podficcers. >:} How delightful of a concept is that?!

(Although if you actually wanted recorded podfic meta, podficcers have totally done that before. (I can think of an example as recent as a few days ago. XD) And afaik [livejournal.com profile] pod_aware isn't running this year, but there were always people recording themselves talking about podfic for that! Official little ~podcasty things and everything.)

[identity profile] citrusjava.livejournal.com 2013-12-02 05:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, that fic sounds like it could be interesting.
I like the challenge, too. Like - I loved the researchy way The Incestuous Courtship by Fleshflutter started (I'm sure you know that one. It's too fantastic to rec) :)

I'm curious in what way he discovers his sexuality (though - < soapbox >, feel free to just skip). I love fic that deals with discovering one's wants/needs/loves etc, but I'm not a fan of a lot of the "discovering I'm gay" stories. I prefer ambiguity to that. I enjoyed The Devil Really Does Wear Prada, the way Sam was gay in it was fine to me, since he was Sam. But sometimes it's just all about the narrative we all learned - coming out, "it's OK to be gay", even as far as announcing your marriage to your normative sweetheart at a family barbecue and adopting children while you work as a lawyer and an architect and have a female best friend who's so emotionally disturbed and would totally do you if you weren't gay. "This is the only way to live, and only people who do this deserve any rights. It gets better if you're normative-white-thin-gorgeous-middle class-cisgender-sexual-able-monogamous". People write that less for bi, but it also exists. And I just read it and think of the guys at the LGBT center who wouldn't allow us to use one of their rooms for a youth bi and pan group because "no one really needs that". One of the things I love about SPN is its complicated relationship with being normative. < / rant >

Aww, Due South! I watched a few episodes, it was really cute! And a friend kinds pulled me into a group of fans of the show, though I didn't know it well - fun!

I tried to watch Merlin but had to quit after an episode or two; I hated The Social Network because it's full of Mean People Doing Mean Things

THIS. Exactly.

I drool at the prospect of a J2 AU wherein they are both podficcers. >:} How delightful of a concept is that?!


YES, PLEASE!

Or Sam and Dean, or J2, listening to podfic... "Dude, she nailed your fake-butch tone". "Always said you sounded like a girl, Sammy". And the whole - listening to sex scenes as you wait in line or do the laundry. Can it be transferred to a tape for the Impala? What'd Dean think of the music people choose? "That girl sounded like she was honestly turned on. Do you think they fake it, like in porn?" - "She just liked the thought of me naked. Can't blame her". - "She wasn't thinking about you naked, she was being you naked, that's not the same thing". -"Why, I like the thought of me naked". Hrm.

Thanks for the recs! I should get more into the podfic community <3

[identity profile] applegeuse.livejournal.com 2013-12-03 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
(For what it's worth: From what I remember of that fic, it wasn't really about Dean figuring out he was bisexual; he already knew that, but it was his first time having a real relationship with another guy and his main struggle was about telling Sam and Bobby about it, how to talk about something like that.)

OH. MY. GOD. SAM AND DEAN LISTENING TO PODFIC AND SNARKING ABOUT IT, OH MY GOD THAT IS SO PERFECT, WHY DOES IT NOT EXISTTTTTT. *___________________________*

"Dude, she nailed your fake-butch tone". "Always said you sounded like a girl, Sammy".
"That girl sounded like she was honestly turned on. Do you think they fake it, like in porn?"


PERFECT PERFECT PERFECT PERFECT PERFECT PERFECT PERFECT


[identity profile] citrusjava.livejournal.com 2013-12-03 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG, this comment made my morning... I had to get up after about one hour of sleep, for a 12 hour day at uni, Spanish and the mean people at the gate, and I was so incredibly not up to that. And your comment made me happy and smiley and got me through a lot of it :)
THANK YOU!
<3