And as for Sam feeling damaged, it took SO long for the show to get there, and by that point S8 was basically over. I think that's why S8 was so frustrating for me
YES!!! There was just a tiny little bit, IINM the main menton of it was in 821, and even that was about Sam having felt impure since he was a child – not about the things he'd gone through later. It was so interesting, a new part of Sam (in a way) – I was so glad to get it, so beautiful - and I liked that they left it untidy – and there the season ended (Jared <3). And I'm like – so glad you took the time to tell us your disturbing thoughts about slavery and BDSM instead of exploring this. (and negating some important canon – never been to the grand canyon – and some not so important canon – Dean is *not* allergic to cats!)
I agree. There were so many episodes that could have been awesome if they were twice or three times longer, instead of some of the others...
After the dismal first third or so that I wish had never happened,
*caugh* You mean the weeks in which there was that second writer's strike, and the show wasn't on? It is a pity we didn't get to find out what happened exactly (Sam didn't look for Dean? Dean got together with a vampire?! And Cas- ?) but it's cute that they jumped into the middle of the season, as it things aired, even numbered the episodes according to the previous air dates. And it's so cute that fandom plays along with that, of course it does...
the season took a turn for the better, and I was EXCITED about the show again!
Me too... I was losing hope, and everyone around me talked like they liked the eps (except for a few people who don't like anything, whom I was trying not to play with. They kept telling me how much they disliked Jared and Sam *pouts*) and I didn't know if I was just completely off, or what. And then – whiplash! Everything changed completely... I wrote a song about it, at the time...
But it kept touching on things but never going all the way in exploring them
Yes...
about Jensen becoming tired. I think it's really been showing since S8, because sometimes I honestly feel like I'm watching Jensen on screen instead of Dean
YES. It made me cry a couple of times, during the early episodes of season 8. He looked so tired and sad and even sometimes a little shocked with emotion - it was giving him trouble acting, it looked (to me) like – it felt to me lik he was saying goodbye to the show, like he was going through realizing he is one his way out - that it was not going to get better, that it and he was done :-(
One thing though that I loved – in LARP he started using one of his Jensen smiles as Dean. A smile I adore. Itt's more of a mature, warm, caring smile, and it was there all the time for LARP, and a bunch of times after. To me it was character development rather than not being Dean.
And I've seen him switch from Jensen to Dean like that at cons, so I know he can do it easy!
Aww, hadn't thought of that... :-( Perhaps the Dean he flips into at cons is more of a season 1-5 Dean? Harder to flip into that other/those other/what's going on with Dean, Deans?
There have been points during S8 where I felt like I was watching Jared instead of Sam as well, but that was mostly during Sam and Amelia scenes, and based on what Jared's said in interviews, I think that's more a case of Jared not having a clue how to play Sam rather than not trying.
Interesting. And the interviews sound interesting too, haven't heard those. In the last episode there was a moment that was so Jared to me, rather than Sam – his reaction to the people around after Dean was gonna shoot the pigeon. Anyway – yeah.
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YES!!!
There was just a tiny little bit, IINM the main menton of it was in 821, and even that was about Sam having felt impure since he was a child – not about the things he'd gone through later. It was so interesting, a new part of Sam (in a way) – I was so glad to get it, so beautiful - and I liked that they left it untidy – and there the season ended (Jared <3). And I'm like – so glad you took the time to tell us your disturbing thoughts about slavery and BDSM instead of exploring this. (and negating some important canon – never been to the grand canyon – and some not so important canon – Dean is *not* allergic to cats!)
I agree. There were so many episodes that could have been awesome if they were twice or three times longer, instead of some of the others...
After the dismal first third or so that I wish had never happened,
*caugh*
You mean the weeks in which there was that second writer's strike, and the show wasn't on? It is a pity we didn't get to find out what happened exactly (Sam didn't look for Dean? Dean got together with a vampire?! And Cas- ?) but it's cute that they jumped into the middle of the season, as it things aired, even numbered the episodes according to the previous air dates. And it's so cute that fandom plays along with that, of course it does...
the season took a turn for the better, and I was EXCITED about the show again!
Me too...
I was losing hope, and everyone around me talked like they liked the eps (except for a few people who don't like anything, whom I was trying not to play with. They kept telling me how much they disliked Jared and Sam *pouts*) and I didn't know if I was just completely off, or what. And then – whiplash! Everything changed completely...
I wrote a song about it, at the time...But it kept touching on things but never going all the way in exploring them
Yes...
about Jensen becoming tired. I think it's really been showing since S8, because sometimes I honestly feel like I'm watching Jensen on screen instead of Dean
YES. It made me cry a couple of times, during the early episodes of season 8. He looked so tired and sad and even sometimes a little shocked with emotion - it was giving him trouble acting, it looked (to me) like – it felt to me lik he was saying goodbye to the show, like he was going through realizing he is one his way out - that it was not going to get better, that it and he was done
:-(
One thing though that I loved – in LARP he started using one of his Jensen smiles as Dean. A smile I adore. Itt's more of a mature, warm, caring smile, and it was there all the time for LARP, and a bunch of times after. To me it was character development rather than not being Dean.
And I've seen him switch from Jensen to Dean like that at cons, so I know he can do it easy!
Aww, hadn't thought of that... :-(
Perhaps the Dean he flips into at cons is more of a season 1-5 Dean? Harder to flip into that other/those other/what's going on with Dean, Deans?
There have been points during S8 where I felt like I was watching Jared instead of Sam as well, but that was mostly during Sam and Amelia scenes, and based on what Jared's said in interviews, I think that's more a case of Jared not having a clue how to play Sam rather than not trying.
Interesting.
And the interviews sound interesting too, haven't heard those.
In the last episode there was a moment that was so Jared to me, rather than Sam – his reaction to the people around after Dean was gonna shoot the pigeon.
Anyway – yeah.